Miller MAF M30 Group Buy

wkohler · Post by **wkohler** » Jan 05, 2008 3:55 AM

Gary (M5BB) has successfully received responses (where I hadn't) from the Miller folk about adding an M30 MAF group buy to the S38/M88 buy already in progress.

The price for the unit is $450 plus shipping, which is a $70 savings over their current interweb pricing. I cannot imagine shipping would differ from the S38/M88 pricing at $25.

Luckily, they are not requiring 10 M30 units to be purchased, so you can piggyback onto their group buy. As of this post, Gary says he has about 6 and I know of at least 3 interested.

Obviously, once the group buy is closed, this pricing is no longer available.

For those of you who inevitably will ask for dyno sheets, etc, they are trying to find them, but it might take a while since they are moving to a new facility.

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 05, 2008 9:38 PM

Chris is helping me with this group buy and I appreciate his help very much.
For those of you who might not visit the M5 forum here is a link to the information about the Miller MAF and the PCU-1.

http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=41170

You can also get more details at the Miller Performance site.

http://millerperformancecars.com/

bill · Post by **bill** » Jan 06, 2008 1:03 AM

Gary,
Count me in for one MAF and a PCU-1 unit for an 88 M5
modifications: Exhaust cam gear and track pipe
Thanks
Bill(near portland or)

RobertRO · Post by **RobertRO** » Jan 07, 2008 5:37 AM

The Miller M30 MAF has only a version for the green (8:1 compression) engine, or there's one for the dirty (10:1 compression) engine, too?

alpinass · Post by **alpinass** » Jan 10, 2008 5:37 PM

IF the Miller MAF unit will work on a B&B M30b35 with #179ECU.

Mike in Seattle · Post by **Mike in Seattle** » Jan 10, 2008 10:07 PM

When would this group buy take place? I might be interested, but need to wait for my tax return.

Thanks,

Mike

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 10, 2008 11:05 PM

Mike, I was trying for the end of the month.
Miller Performance is in the process of moving and that has slowed things down some getting questions answered.
I'm still not quite at the 10 total of MAF's for M5/6 and M30.
I'll keep you up to date.
Thanks for chimning in.

Post by **Nebraska_e28** » Jan 11, 2008 1:42 AM

Is there anyone on the board that has done this conversion previously & can give some insight on the results? Thanks!

wkohler · Post by **wkohler** » Jan 11, 2008 1:58 AM

Mason O'Lennick has done it.

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 11, 2008 8:33 AM

I put this message up a few weeks ago.
Anyone using a MIller MAF
Read what people are saying.

http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=41406

Post by **Nebraska_e28** » Jan 11, 2008 8:40 AM

M5BB wrote:I put this message up a few weeks ago.
Anyone using a MIller MAF
Read what people are saying.

http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=41406

Thank you, much appreciated! I got some homework to do.

clevertd · Post by **clevertd** » Jan 11, 2008 10:41 AM

My results
E34 535i/5

ahab · Post by **ahab** » Jan 11, 2008 2:37 PM

clevertd wrote:My results
E34 535i/5

Could you elaborate? Do you have any pre MAF data? Were there any other mods to the car? I assume this is RWHP since the B35 should have 211 stock?

Thanks,
Aaron

clevertd · Post by **clevertd** » Jan 11, 2008 3:17 PM

That dyno is from a completely stock B35 a few weeks after I did most of the routine maintenance on it. Dyno is RWHP. I had no pre MAF data. I've had the MAF on the car for over a year now.

ahab · Post by **ahab** » Jan 11, 2008 7:49 PM

Thanks for the clarification. I'm impressed by the results.

Aaron

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 12, 2008 2:41 PM

Getting close to the number needed to place the order.

Now is the time to put your money where your mouth is.....
as the saying goes.

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 14, 2008 1:56 PM

Great news everyone.
We have obtained critical mass. Over 10 units with the addition of a few for the M30 guys.

I spoke to Miller today and cleared up a few questions.
Yes, there is a chip for the M88 ECU055 that will allow the MAF to work with this engine.
The PCU-1 accepts inputs from the narrowband O2 sensor and they are going to check with the engineer ( who is out of town today) about it working with the wideband O2 sensor.
Should have that answer by tomorrow.

The purchase procedure will probably be where you can go to their web site and using a code word purchase the items that are discounted and any other pieces you might need.
One person that contacted me is purchasing some other items too.

I'm going to try to send a personal email to all that have told me they would buy. If you read this and haven't gotten an email from me by tomorrow noon then please contact me via PM.

RobertRO · Post by **RobertRO** » Jan 14, 2008 3:22 PM

M5BB wrote: I spoke to Miller today and cleared up a few questions.
Yes, there is a chip for the M88 ECU055 that will allow the MAF to work with this engine.

But it seems that there's no chip to go with the 061 M30 10:1 compression ECU, right?

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 14, 2008 8:09 PM

Robert, since I started this group buy with the primary product being the MAF for the M5/6 I'm afraid I don't understand what you are talking about.

I have a 84 533 DD with an M30 but please explain about this compression issue.
Is the O61 your ECU?
I'll be glad to call and find out about this but I need to know what questions to ask?

wkohler · Post by **wkohler** » Jan 14, 2008 8:11 PM

What he's talking about is that the M30 MAF is designed to work with the 059 NA 535i ECU (possibly the 008 533 one, but I don't know). Euro cars with the high-compression "dirty" motor use a different ECU, which would be incompatible with the MAF, I imagine.

ahab · Post by **ahab** » Jan 14, 2008 8:59 PM

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that maybe the maps that come included on the Stage One software provided with the MAF would be incompatible with the 061 ECU , but I don't think the hardware itself would be incompatible, assuming the chip socket is the same. I would bet the actual ECU harness connector is the same also, but truthfully I have NO experience with the 061 ECU. If this were the case it would likely only require the MMS1.3 unit, or perhaps the PCU-1 piggyback and some time figuring out how to "tune the burn" as it were to get the dirty motor to run properly using the MAF. Just so say it I don't think I've even seen an 061, high comp, dirty motor but since the complete Miller system is so highly tuneable I think it would work, with enough sweat equity. This question could probably be answered by Miller.

Aaron

Mike in Seattle · Post by **Mike in Seattle** » Jan 15, 2008 9:37 AM

Would the miller MAF work with a 150 ECU? My 1988 535i, for some reason, came with a 150 ECU on a B34 motor.

Mike

RobertRO · Post by **RobertRO** » Jan 17, 2008 2:31 AM

M5BB wrote:Robert [...]
Is the O61 your ECU?
I'll be glad to call and find out about this but I need to know what questions to ask?

Sorry for replying so late.
Yes, my ECU is a Motronic 0 261 200 061, because I have the Euro high compression (10:1) version of the M30B34 engine, not the US low compression (8:1) version, which uses the Motronic 0 261 200 059 ECU.

I am interested in a Miller MAF only if they include in the kit a chip properly tuned for the 061 ECU. Which, I know, is extremely unlikely.

I am not interested in a solution that has to be tuned by me, because first I don't have the time to do that, and second I would go the MegaSquirt route, if any tuning is involved.

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 17, 2008 12:07 PM

Guys,
I just don't think that we can accomodate all the variations for the different ECU's.
You can contact Miller Performance and see if they can help you.
I do not know the answer, sorry!

http://millerperformancecars.com/

M5BB · Post by **M5BB** » Jan 23, 2008 10:08 AM

The following people should have gotten an email from m5er at bellsouth.net on Monday with purchase info for the M30 MAF.
If you did not please contact me at the m5er email please.
One person did not get the email.

Chris Kohler AZ
Nikos Kalogridis Greece
Michael Murphy CA
Dan Robinson
Aaron Manderbach
Chris Devine CA
Walt Suman

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