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BMW E34 535I turbo build question
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 12:23 PM
by rtrip9
So im new to the forum and done a crap load of research and still have lots of questions, spoke to a buddy of mine that works on beemers and he referered me to this site to answer the remaining questions i have.
Here is what i am looking to do with this car.
- It is a seldom driven daily driver I have a BMW k1200 motorcycle I drive daily.
Just want to run 8-10 psi of boost
want to keep stock internals
add a little HP and torque
spend a little as possible
no racing
no show
not looking for a performance vehicle
Here it the list of parts i already have for my build,
Turbo manifold with t3 mount
oil feed line
T3/T4 turbo
- .60 A/R Compressor
.63 A/R Turbine
wet float bearing style
internal wastegate set at 8psi
v-band ehaust
Now i know i have to get:
- oil return line to pan
intake pipe kit
Parts im unsure if i have to get or is there something else i can do:
- new injectors 30/40lb
ecm programing
chip
fuel pump
different fuel regulator
blow off valve
any help would be great. I am trying to gather all info and parts before i began the build please chine in with pics and build tips. if someone has a list of there build that would be awsome.
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 3:48 PM
by clongo
Do a search, there are a ton of build threads in this section.
For 8psi you will need a Begi FMU, TCD chip, and 30lb injectors.
You you will also need a downpipe, exhaust, BOV, charge pipes, intercooler, boost gauge, wideband, upgraded fuel pump, spark plugs, intake setup, oil return line and fittings to make it reliable. You can get away without a intercooler @ 8psi. But i think most will agree its worth having.
I would go over the car and make sure everything is in good working condition before you start boosting. fuel lines, cooling system, ignition setup, etc. Dont boost a car that needs mechanical work.
cheap, fast, reliable.... pick 2.
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 5:12 PM
by Kyle in NO
Judging by your list of wants and needs, I can honestly say that a turbo system is not right for you.
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 6:57 PM
by marc79euro645
Sounds like fun to me. I recommend megasquirt instead of fmu/chip. you won't regret it.
good luck
marc
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 8:07 PM
by turbodan
marc79euro645 wrote:Sounds like fun to me. I recommend megasquirt instead of fmu/chip. you won't regret it.
good luck
marc
Not for a low boost system. You may very well end up regretting it. Lot of work to install and tune standalone.
Re: BMW E34 535I turbo build question
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 8:15 PM
by turbodan
rtrip9 wrote:
spend a little as possible
no racing
no show
not looking for a performance vehicle
Why bother with turbocharging then? Its a lot of work, adds a lot of complexity and costs a lot of money.
The turbo you've got now is a Chinese knockoff piece of shit. The "T3/T4" and "wet float bearing style" gives that away. The turbine is too small for the M30 and the whole rotating assembly could literally self destruct at any time, possibly sending pieces of compressor wheel into your engine. Turbos are not a component to skimp on. If you want to go cheap get a used Holset. They are quality turbos and they are plentiful.
Posted: Apr 25, 2012 5:10 PM
by Cooperman
Turbocharging Dynamics and Miller Performance both offer chips and other components. I recommend looking their websites over thoroughly.
Posted: Apr 25, 2012 6:41 PM
by AlpinaE24
I think you would be better off spending money on suspension and brakes. Plus a little thrown into the engine tune,cam,headers..etc and the car will be plenty fast and fun to drive.
Trying to piece together a turbo kit for cheap only leads to one outcome. You take your nice running car and turn it into an unreliable, gas guzzling, shit box. With never ending problems and sad days spent on the side of the road getting laughed at by 16 year olds in civics
If you want to turbo it, do it right.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 12:40 AM
by GI jonas
Trying to piece together a turbo kit for cheap only leads to one outcome. You take your nice running car and turn it into an unreliable, gas guzzling, shit box. With never ending problems and sad days spent on the side of the road getting laughed at by 16 year olds in civics Bawl
This.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:10 AM
by Duke
Sell your car and but a E28 that has already been turbocharged and sorted out.
Too easy.
Posted: May 04, 2012 8:23 PM
by GermanPanzer
AlpinaE24 wrote:I think you would be better off spending money on suspension and brakes. Plus a little thrown into the engine tune,cam,headers..etc and the car will be plenty fast and fun to drive.
Trying to piece together a turbo kit for cheap only leads to one outcome. You take your nice running car and turn it into an unreliable, gas guzzling, shit box. With never ending problems and sad days spent on the side of the road getting laughed at by 16 year olds in civics
If you want to turbo it, do it right.
I agree (Keep it Reliable), I Supercharged my 2006 Daily driver Toyota Tacoma ,With the 310hp, I trashed 2 rear ends(locking) Brought the MPG to 12, BLEW the 60k engine to smithereens, it would have been a reliable truck. I fixed withe the warranty and sold it, buying my E24. I plan on buying a E36 or E46 to Turbo as a Toy Car. My E24 will stay mostly stock.
Posted: May 05, 2012 10:00 AM
by Brad D.
Mind you, it IS possible to have a reliable turbo car, it just won't be cheap and it HAS to be done right. I've daily driven my car for over 4 years with over 350 whp and it has been pretty damn reliable save for a few destroyed CSBs.
With that being said, the turbo listed in your laundry list is totally inadequate for an M30. I'd be looking for something that was a straight T4 and not a chinese ebay crap turbo. As Dan said, a low boost system can be made to work without a standalone, however, the standalone, IMO, if done right can just add to the reliability and driveability of a turbo car.
Posted: May 31, 2012 11:33 PM
by thespeedfactory
Mine was perfectly reliable up to 15 psi.
I ran a Split Second 4" MAF and FTC-1 with a inline walbro hp255, with a little T04E, type-R BOV, and FMIC.