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Long intercooler piping

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 10:09 PM
by Patrick McHugh
Is there any disadvantage to placing the intercooler radiator far (+10ft) away from the heat exchanger?

The E28 is short on space up in the front and i'm considering something silly.

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 10:58 PM
by Shadow
well on the plus side it'll have bigger capacity from the extra long hoses.

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:00 PM
by Patrick McHugh
Shadow wrote:Is the car even 10 feet long?
Last I saw the car it was at least 10 feet long

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:01 PM
by Jeremy
Shadow wrote:Is the car even 10 feet long?
They're a little over 15 feet bumper to bumper if memory serves. The only downside I can think of to this scheme is the plumbing and how you'd get adequate airflow over the heat exchanger. Depending on exactly where you're thinking of mounting it, there might be other downsides like susceptibility to being hit by road debris.

What are you plotting?

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:07 PM
by Patrick McHugh
Jeremy wrote:
Shadow wrote:Is the car even 10 feet long?
They're a little over 15 feet bumper to bumper if memory serves. The only downside I can think of to this scheme is the plumbing and how you'd get adequate airflow over the heat exchanger. Depending on exactly where you're thinking of mounting it, there might be other downsides like susceptibility to being hit by road debris.

What are you plotting?
I was going to try to find some space in the rear behind the RH axle for a free air cooler or build a small box in the trunk or under the rear seat with a fan pushing air through SCAT tubing to it. The spare tire well would be a perfect place to create such a thing but I just can't loose the spare given my history of poor luck.

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:15 PM
by Kyle in NO
Water-to-air works fine up front. Why reinvent the wheel (or intercooler)?

Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:20 PM
by Patrick McHugh
I want to retain the factory AC and get away from all of the heat in the front front of the car.

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 12:21 AM
by ldsbeaker
AAA card vice the spare?

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 7:37 AM
by Scottinva
I believe BMW would put some coolers in the back of the car if you do some research. Such as the CSL, on that note I think it was utilizing the large flares for this. I've seen people make aluminum boxes for like the trunk and run fans and napa ducts. It would be a ton of work no matter what IMO. Also check out Toyota MR2 "Trunk intercooler" It is a popular modification for them and it may give you some design ideas.

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 8:18 AM
by Patrick McHugh
Scottinva wrote:I believe BMW would put some coolers in the back of the car if you do some research. Such as the CSL, on that note I think it was utilizing the large flares for this. I've seen people make aluminum boxes for like the trunk and run fans and napa ducts. It would be a ton of work no matter what IMO. Also check out Toyota MR2 "Trunk intercooler" It is a popular modification for them and it may give you some design ideas.
Awesome! Thanks!

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 8:39 AM
by Bill in MN

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 11:22 PM
by mooseheadm5
There isn't really a whole lot of airflow under the car if you are thinking of putting a heat exchanger back there. You would pretty much need to do some ducting to get air to where you want it, which means cutting up the car (you don't want to do that.) I'd do it to an E30 coupe, because you could run ducts to the rear quarter windows, but your car is too nice to hack up when there are perfectly good ways of doing it otherwise.

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 11:28 PM
by ldsbeaker
Scottinva wrote:napa ducts.
:rofl:

Oh man, literally EL OH EL. NACA ducts.

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 11:29 PM
by Patrick McHugh
ldsbeaker wrote:
Scottinva wrote:napa ducts.
:rofl:

Oh man, literally EL OH EL. NACA ducts.
But when purchased at a certain auto parts store, they're NAPA ducts.

Posted: Dec 18, 2012 11:44 PM
by ldsbeaker
Patrick McHugh wrote:
ldsbeaker wrote:
Scottinva wrote:napa ducts.
:rofl:

Oh man, literally EL OH EL. NACA ducts.
But when purchased at a certain auto parts store, they're NAPA ducts.
I tried to get some napa ducts at O'reilly's. All they had was harteage and alpeena stuff.

Posted: Dec 19, 2012 12:10 AM
by Kyle in NO
Patrick McHugh wrote:I want to retain the factory AC and get away from all of the heat in the front front of the car.
My TCD setup with water to air retains the factory AC and doesn't run hot. I don't see the problem.

Posted: Dec 19, 2012 1:35 AM
by Patrick McHugh
Kyle in NO wrote:
Patrick McHugh wrote:I want to retain the factory AC and get away from all of the heat in the front front of the car.
My TCD setup with water to air retains the factory AC and doesn't run hot. I don't see the problem.
Where do you have you IC radiators?

Posted: Dec 19, 2012 8:52 AM
by Kyle in NO
One behind the kidney grille and the other behind the opening in the valance.

Posted: Dec 19, 2012 6:53 PM
by Scottinva
Kyle in NO wrote:One behind the kidney grille and the other behind the opening in the valance.
What boost pressure?