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If you are running an e23 745i exhaust manifold this might interest you.

I have been working on this for a few months now and I am about ready to move forward. I have the quote back from the machine shop for the work. It will be $225 plus $150 for initial startup to make 5 adapter plates. After that It will be another $75-$100 to press and assemble the plate onto the bottom of a tial 38mm wastegate. After adding in the price of the wastegate we are looking at about $600 (give or take a couple of $$$) for a complete unit to make a run at this.

I need 5 people to commit to get this started... I'm already in so we really only need 4. If you're interested let me know. I will probably only do this once so don't miss out.

This adapter plate will be made from T304 Stainless, which means no rust and better heat properties than the other piece I have.

I'm not understanding how much the unit will cost to those of us willing to sign up...

Sorry, here is a breakdown.

$305 - plate
$75 - press and assemble
$225 - WG

= $525 - $600 (I will know final pricing once they are finished... but it will be less than $600 guaranteed)


Once we have enough people to make a run at it, I will ask that all interested parties make a deposit so I don't get stuck with all the units.

Is this adapter of your design? Where did you come up with that crazy idea?

Very clever solution! Looks like you'd even be able to keep whatever downpipe you are currently using. Is that correct?

mooseheadm5 wrote:Very clever solution! Looks like you'd even be able to keep whatever downpipe you are currently using. Is that correct?

Correct. I have one of your elbows but it does not clear the e23 chassis so it's no good to me.

BTDT.

Good luck.

Yes, it would appear I have one of yours

Any chance you want to make another run? How much did you guys charge for a complete piece? PM me if you like.

Boru wrote:Is this adapter of your design? Where did you come up with that crazy idea?

Just saw this post. I think TCD made a few of them back in the day. I'm trying to make another run at it with a different material that won't rust.

SicStang03 wrote:Yes, it would appear I have one of yours

Any chance you want to make another run? How much did you guys charge for a complete piece? PM me if you like.

Sweeney made it. I thought he only made one for my personal 745i. I have spoken to the current Owner of that car and it's still in one piece. So you either have the one from that car or Sweeney made two and I sold one. I don't recall exactly. I don't see any talk of machining the valve. Do you have a plan for that?

SicStang03 wrote:

Boru wrote:Is this adapter of your design? Where did you come up with that crazy idea?

Just saw this post. I think TCD made a few of them back in the day. I'm trying to make another run at it with a different material that won't rust.

Just ribbing ya, man... Those adapters are my little creation. I used continuously cast ductile iron so the thermal expansion characteristics matched the elbow.

Have at it!

Boru wrote: I used continuously cast ductile iron so the thermal expansion characteristics matched the elbow.

T_C_D wrote:

SicStang03 wrote:Sweeney made it. I thought he only made one for my personal 745i. I have spoken to the current Owner of that car and it's still in one piece. So you either have the one from that car or Sweeney made two and I sold one. I don't recall exactly. I don't see any talk of machining the valve. Do you have a plan for that?

Ah ok, I heard you made them. Well Maybe he will chime in. Maybe I already have a reproduction version haha.

Why do I need to machine the valve? The stock WG and Tial piece have the same size. I was going to make the plate and press it on.

SicStang03 wrote: Ah ok, I heard you made them. Well Maybe he will chime in. Maybe I already have a reproduction version haha.

He doesn't remember either. It was 6 years ago. Where did you get it?

I know I made a couple of them and there was no machining of the Tial valve. The valve guide was removed from the Tial's base and pressed into the adapter. Pretty simple actually.

I bought a turbo kit for sale because it was part of the package. I didn't know there was only one or two floating around.

Boru wrote:I know I made a couple of them and there was no machining of the Tial valve. The valve guide was removed from the Tial's base and pressed into the adapter. Pretty simple actually.

If it was so simple you should have made ten.

Boru wrote:I know I made a couple of them and there was no machining of the Tial valve. The valve guide was removed from the Tial's base and pressed into the adapter. Pretty simple actually.

That's what I was thinking. I'm looking at around $300 before buying the WG. Is that a good price? Why did you only make a couple? Did you do these by hand!?

The price for me to do by hand is closer to $600 before the WG purchase.

T_C_D wrote:

Boru wrote:I know I made a couple of them and there was no machining of the Tial valve. The valve guide was removed from the Tial's base and pressed into the adapter. Pretty simple actually.

If it was so simple you should have made ten.

I lost interest after the challenge of figuring it out... not making them. Plus, electron guns are more profitable

SicStang03 wrote:

Boru wrote:I know I made a couple of them and there was no machining of the Tial valve. The valve guide was removed from the Tial's base and pressed into the adapter. Pretty simple actually.

That's what I was thinking. I'm looking at around $300 before buying the WG. Is that a good price? Why did you only make a couple? Did you do these by hand!?

The price for me to do by hand is closer to $600 before the WG purchase.

I used my lathe and Bridgeport manual mill. For production I'd most likely have the square form cut from plate stock along with the holes using water jet and then finish up on a lathe.

The problem you'll run into is the 'economy of scale' vs. demand. This is why we didn't bother pursuing these.

Boru wrote: Plus, electron guns are more profitable

Do you work in E-beam vapor deposition or EDM?

mooseheadm5 wrote:

Boru wrote: Plus, electron guns are more profitable

Do you work in E-beam vapor deposition or EDM?

Here we go. The mad scientist fest begins.

mooseheadm5 wrote:

Boru wrote: Plus, electron guns are more profitable

Do you work in E-beam vapor deposition or EDM?

Next to wastegate adapter plates, turbo V8 BMWs, bronze statuary for National Parks and playing with firearms I also make high voltage feedthroughs (electron guns) for Scanning Electron Micro Probes... but I don't know what the heated metal box in my kitchen is used for.

I used to work in research doing e-beam vapor deposition of ceramic and metallic coatings (sometime using plasma activation.) It was always easier to tell people it worked on magic.

mooseheadm5 wrote:I used to work in research doing e-beam vapor deposition of ceramic and metallic coatings (sometime using plasma activation.) It was always easier to tell people it worked on magic.

Magic... smoke and mirrors... whatever works

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Glad it was donated for a good cause

MonsterCntye34 wrote:Subscribed for updates...

Glad it was donated for a good cause

Doesn't look like we will get very far. Everyone wants a cheaper solution.

Also, I'm not sure if you ever ran this thing, but the WG diaphragm has a hole in it. No way it would have sealed and worked. I ordered a new one but thought you might want to know in case you were having trouble with it.