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Cold Start help

Posted: Mar 14, 2012 2:49 AM
by BATESY
I was wondering if someone could post up there cold start wizard table for me. I cant seem to get my cold start right and still have to kinda hold the gas pedal for a sec. I have a idle bump valve but a good table would help me out a bunch. thanks

BATES

Posted: Mar 14, 2012 3:28 AM
by Shadow
Are you using any ASE?

Posted: Mar 14, 2012 3:30 AM
by BATESY
english, I dont speak robot.

Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:33 AM
by Shadow
Natural selection is a bitch!!

Posted: Mar 14, 2012 1:55 PM
by BATESY
it is indeed but your not helping that.

Posted: Mar 14, 2012 9:56 PM
by marc79euro645
Batesy,
I don't know if these will work for you.
on warm up enrichment from top to bottom
150,150,150,150,150,118,115,110,100
prime pulse 7.0
@-40=6.0
@160=6.0
flood clear= 70.0
additive%=55
# of cycles=950
good luck
marc

Posted: Mar 15, 2012 12:12 AM
by turbodan
marc79euro645 wrote:Batesy,
I don't know if these will work for you.
on warm up enrichment from top to bottom
150,150,150,150,150,118,115,110,100
prime pulse 7.0
@-40=6.0
@160=6.0
flood clear= 70.0
additive%=55
# of cycles=950
good luck
marc
I'd disable that priming pulse. Every time you cycle the ignition you're getting 7ms of fuel injected. If you get the cranking pulse widths dialed in you don't need anything else to get it to light up. Once its running ASE and WUE kick in.

WUE should be more or less linear with more fuel required for colder running. I'm not sure if I understand the data you posted correctly but it looks like it takes pretty big steps down. It works best when ramped down gradually, like the other enrichments.

Posted: Mar 15, 2012 12:31 PM
by BATESY
marc79euro645 wrote:Batesy,
I don't know if these will work for you.
on warm up enrichment from top to bottom
150,150,150,150,150,118,115,110,100
prime pulse 7.0
@-40=6.0
@160=6.0
flood clear= 70.0
additive%=55
# of cycles=950
good luck
marc
thanks guys. Ill try that out

Posted: Mar 15, 2012 10:27 PM
by BATESY
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I cant to figure out today where those number go compared to mine. Im running tunerstudio latest.thanks for the help. btw thats all my cranking tables.

Posted: Mar 15, 2012 10:51 PM
by marc79euro645
Mine seems to like the prime pulse.
I also have my timing starts at 10* @ 100kpa,
peak up to 25*@ 70 kpa
then drops to 20* for idle.
This starts fast & gives a nice little rev,before it settles to idle.
marc

Posted: Mar 15, 2012 11:10 PM
by marc79euro645
Batesy,
I'm using megatune,v2.687 firmware, so it looks different than tunerstudio w later firmware.
the first list of #'s represent ase %(lower right on your screen.
I live in Florida so I haven't tuned below 40F.
prime pulse is on the left
marc

Posted: Mar 16, 2012 12:48 AM
by BATESY
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here the changes I made. see what you think before I run it. I cant seem to find additive% or #of cycles part or timing you were talking about.

Posted: Mar 16, 2012 7:44 AM
by Scottinva
You guys can't compare warmup enrichment numbers unless the version you are using is the same. Why in the world don't you have ASE turned on?

Posted: Mar 16, 2012 10:42 AM
by turbodan
WUE percentages can probably be used but other settings may or may not apply. The problem is that other settings affect warm up and cold start running so without implementing everything it may not work very well at all.

Posted: Mar 16, 2012 4:43 PM
by BATESY
Scottinva wrote:You guys can't compare warmup enrichment numbers unless the version you are using is the same. Why in the world don't you have ASE turned on?
I turn off ase due to a problem I was having, never turned it back on.

What is the different between ASE and Warm up wizard on tunerstudio, seems it doing the same thing anyway.

Posted: Mar 16, 2012 5:42 PM
by marc79euro645
Watch your vr pulse on the left megasquirt led. If your car is cold or battery low,or cables dirty, low cranking rpm for any reason,will cause you not to get vr pulse. When my car is cold I might have to crank for a couple seconds to start getting pulse.
Looks like you got the ase %s right. but I'm sure you'll need to tune them for your conditions. I would datalog start up.
marc